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Post  andyman Tue Nov 22 2022, 01:39

The Fin (Ensign Dan Noble)
Hero
Seeking Justice
Hero Points: 6 (450 + 50 Background + 16 Drawbacks - 510 Spent)

DEX 8 (56 HP) [14 HP Free]
STR 8 (48 HP) [12 HP Free]
BODY 8/8 (48 HP) [12 HP Free]
INT 5 (21 HP) [7 HP Free]
WILL 5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
MIND 5/5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
INFL 5 (21 HP) [7 HP Free]
AURA 5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
SPIRIT 5/5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
Initiative 22

Powers:
Swimming 8* (15 HP)
Ultra Vision 5 (15 HP)
Water Freedom 8* (15 HP)

Skills:
Martial Artist 8* (75 HP)
Medicine (First Aid) 1 [Free with Rank]
Military Science 5* (19 HP) [19 HP Free]
Vehicles (Water) 8* (15 HP)
Weaponry 2 (0 HP) [11 HP Free]

Advantages:
Connections: U.S. Navy (Low) (10 HP)
Neptunia (Low) (10 HP)
Lighting Reflexes (20 HP)

Drawbacks:
Secret Identity (10 HP)
Gradual Power Loss (Strength) to 3 if not immersed in water after one hour. (6 HP)

Equipment:
Cutlass
[Body: 10, EV: 6, Cost: 44]

Height: 6’ 1”
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 27
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Wealth: 4 (6 HP)
Group: GI JOE
Base:
Occupation: Navy Officer (O-1 Ensign)
Marital Status: Single
Relatives: The Fin (Peter Noble) father, Nia Noble mother, U-Man maternal grandfather, Lady Lotus maternal grandmother


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Post  DavidMcMahon Fri Nov 25 2022, 15:45

Okay, I've looked it over but I come up with 535 points for the character.  Math errors can occur so let me know if you think I went wrong.  Using the Blood of Hero character creation rules not 3rd edition DC Heroes, so there may be minor changes in costs of things.


You have Swimming, Sonar and Vehicles/Water linked but that would drop the factor cost down to 0.  Not sure if we have a house rule to let it stop at a factor cost of 1.  Paul?  We have a rule for that?

Also need to buy Wealth.  For your rank, it would be 5 APs,  that rank starts about $48k a year.

From what I can tell, you spent your 3 Background points as follows:  2 BP for rank of O-2 or LT j.g., 1 BP for Vehicles (Water) specialization.  correct?  BTW, you will probably be one of the highest ranking members of the team.  Not so many officers active in Project GI Joe.

Mental Blast will only cost 21 HP, it has a 15 FC.  If you meant Mind Blast, that has a 20 FC and would cost 26 HP.

Weaponry-Cutlass 10, I come up with it costing 21 HP.  -4 FC for only having skill in it.

Vehicles/Water 7, I get costing only 7 HP.  You used your Background Point to cover the base cost and the 1st level.  FC would be 1 or 0, depending on house rule.  So 7 HP.

So by my math, adding in Wealth of 5 APs, the cost is 540.  I have no idea about the cost of the Cutlass, so I leave that up to Paul to tell me if it is correct.

You have 5 Points in Drawbacks.  so you need 35 more points.  Note, that you can have up to 300 points in Drawbacks if you want, so you could make an 800 point character.  Technically, unless you want to blab your private identity to the press, you have a secret ID if you want it. Certain members of the military and the science/magical folks who are involved in developing superpowers would know your private ID but no one else would at the start of the game. So ... secret ID. You wear your mask and costume while on duty. Teammates might know what you look like under the mask - you know, group showers and such - but don't know your name and background unless you provide it.

Your main attack power and defense should be in the 8-10 range.  You got your attack covered with your Cutlass.  Maybe raise your Body to 8-10?  Or Dex?  Body would be cheaper for defense.

I would also suggest getting Ultra Vision.  Aquaman has a 7 in it. Base Cost 10, fc 1.  Pretty Cheap to get and lets you see underwater.

Some Drawbacks you might want to consider if you are running a blank of what to take:  Creepy, Distinct or Strange Appearance - look more like a fishman than human?  Webbed hands and feet?  Huge eyes?.  Dark Secret.  Debt.  Dependent.  Guilt.  Irrational Attraction/Fear/Hatred - Patriotic or Desire to Defend the County would be a standard for most members of the team since they volunteered for the team.  Limelight.  Power Loss.  Uncertainty.  Vulnerable.  Traumatic Flashbacks.


Hope that helps.


andyman wrote:The Fin (Lieutenant Dan Noble)
Hero
Seeking Justice
Hero Points: 505 (504 Spent)

DEX 7 (42 HP)
STR 7 (36 HP)
BODY 7/7 (36 HP)
INT 6 (35 HP)
WILL 6 (30 HP)
MIND 6/6 (30 HP)
INFL 5 (21 HP)
AURA 5 (18 HP)
SPIRIT 5/5 (18 HP)
Initiative 18

Powers:
Water Freedom 7* (13 HP)
Swimming 7* (13 HP)
Telepathy 6* (32 HP)
Mental Blast 6* (26 HP)
Sonar 6* (16 HP)

Skills:
Military Science 6* (33 HP)
Weaponry 7* (26 HP)
Weaponry (Melee-Cutlass) 10 (21 HP)
Vehicles (Water) 7* (13 HP)

Advantages:
Gadget (Magic Cutlass)
[Body: 12, EV: 10, Cost: 72 HP]

Drawbacks:
Public Identity 5

Height: 6’ 1”
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 32
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Wealth: 7 (16 HP)
Group: GI JOE
Base:
Occupation: Navy Lieutenant
Marital Status: Single
Relatives: The Fin (Peter Noble) father, Nia Noble mother, U-Man maternal grandfather, Lady Lotus maternal grandmother
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Post  andyman Sun Nov 27 2022, 03:05

Thank you for the feedback. I made a bunch of changes. Here is the latest for your review.

The Fin (Ensign Dan Noble)
Hero
Seeking Justice
Hero Points: 516 (509 Spent)

DEX 7 (42 HP)
STR 8 (48 HP)
BODY 8/8 (48 HP)
INT 6 (35 HP)
WILL 6 (30 HP)
MIND 4/4 (12 HP)
INFL 5 (21 HP)
AURA 6 (30 HP)
SPIRIT 6/6 (30 HP)
Initiative 22

Powers:
Swimming 6 (12 HP)
Ultra Vision 7 (18 HP)
Water Freedom 7 (24 HP)

Skills:
Martial Artist 4 (46 HP)
Military Science 6* (33 HP)
Vehicles (Water) 7 (14 HP)
Weaponry (Firearms/Melee) 4 (12 HP)

Advantages:
Connections: U.S. Navy (Low) (10 HP)
Neptunia (Low) (10 HP)
Lighting Reflexes (20 HP)

Drawbacks:
Secret Identity (10 HP)
Gradual Power Loss (Strength) to 3 if not immersed in water after one hour. (6 HP)

Equipment:
.44 Magnum Revolver
[Body: 4, EV: 5, Range: 5, Ammo: 6, R#: 3, Cost: 11]
Cutlass
[Body: 6, EV: 4, Cost: 18]

Height: 6’ 1”
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 22
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Wealth: 4 (6 HP)
Group: GI JOE
Base:
Occupation: Navy Officer (O-1 Ensign)
Marital Status: Single
Relatives: The Fin (Peter Noble) father, Nia Noble mother, U-Man maternal grandfather, Lady Lotus maternal grandmother
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Post  DavidMcMahon Sun Nov 27 2022, 10:57

Haven't had a chance to go over this too deeply but the gun won't work for this. It is illegal for military personnel to fire upon American Civilians without direct approval/orders from the President and oversite by Congress. And many supervillains are Americans.

It's why Project GI Joe isn't going to be handing out military weapons to its batch of heroes. Probably something I should have put into the write-up but it is going to be part of General Steele's opening remarks to you new heroes.
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Post  Admin Mon Nov 28 2022, 22:38

Just a couple of things...

Minimum cost for Factor Costs is still 1, no house rule/change from existing

The Magnum - how about non lethal rounds? I have little to no idea about how these things work and according to the internet they are for use in small/low calibre weapons for riot/crowd control. Still caused some deaths though.

If you want I can put it all through the character creation program but the costs look sound to me. I suppose I can do it anyway and print the character sheet out. Also the program makes it super easy to update characters with experience at increased costs and the costs are for Blood of Heroes 2e ruleset. At one stage the program had a description of all the powers and skills inside it but they were removed after a cease and desist from Pulsar Games got sent to Mike Love (the creator of the program).



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Post  Admin Mon Nov 28 2022, 23:10

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May as well apply a loss to all powers as well - sure only one works out of water but it would give the points to buy the powers you lost and the loss all would then apply to them!
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Post  andyman Tue Dec 06 2022, 05:17

Thank you both for the feedback. Here is my latest update.

The Fin (Ensign Dan Noble)
Hero
Seeking Justice
Hero Points: 6 (450 + 50 Background + 16 Drawbacks - 510 Spent)

DEX 8 (56 HP) [14 HP Free]
STR 8 (48 HP) [12 HP Free]
BODY 8/8 (48 HP) [12 HP Free]
INT 5 (21 HP) [7 HP Free]
WILL 5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
MIND 5/5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
INFL 5 (21 HP) [7 HP Free]
AURA 5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
SPIRIT 5/5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
Initiative 22

Powers:
Swimming 8* (15 HP)
Ultra Vision 5 (15 HP)
Water Freedom 8* (15 HP)

Skills:
Martial Artist 8* (75 HP)
Military Science 5* (19 HP) [19 HP Free]
Vehicles (Water) 8* (15 HP)
Weaponry 2 (0 HP) [11 HP Free]

Advantages:
Connections: U.S. Navy (Low) (10 HP)
Neptunia (Low) (10 HP)
Lighting Reflexes (20 HP)

Drawbacks:
Secret Identity (10 HP)
Gradual Power Loss (Strength) to 3 if not immersed in water after one hour. (6 HP)

Equipment:
Cutlass
[Body: 10, EV: 6, Cost: 44]

Height: 6’ 1”
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 27
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Wealth: 4 (6 HP)
Group: GI JOE
Base:
Occupation: Navy Officer (O-1 Ensign)
Marital Status: Single
Relatives: The Fin (Peter Noble) father, Nia Noble mother, U-Man maternal grandfather, Lady Lotus maternal grandmother
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Post  DavidMcMahon Tue Dec 06 2022, 15:26

I see you reduced his rank from LT, j.g. to Ensign. That gives you back one more background subskill point to spend unless you want to go back up to LT, j.g..

You raised subskill Vehicles/Water from the free 1 lvl to 7. Base cost of 5 is paid for with the lvl 1 and Factor cost would be 2 since it is 5-3 so it would cost 15 HP instead of 16 or the 14 I see listed. Just one point off.

May I suggest you use your third background subskill point on Medicine/First Aid? Every serviceman gets some first aid training in Basic Training. Whether they keep it up and keep the skill or not and lose it is up to them. You could also look at Field Command or Danger Recognition from the Military Science skill set for that third background skill point. Though with the skill being at 6, you are way above average for a military man already in Military Science.

Still need to get rid of the Magnum though. The military won't let you use it. The Cutlass is something of a problem but since it is a family heirloom and you can use the flat of the blade to stun opponents, that gets a passing "OK". Though if you use it for killing combat and they find out about that, you will be in trouble.

I suggest spending those 11 points on another superpower such as: Super Hearing, Sonar, Running, Jumping, or Extended Hearing. These could all be due to your aquatic powers and strength.

Also a possible idea since you have some spare points is Energy Blast/Water, useable only in range of large bodies of water or only while in water. Range would be defined as your APs of power. Here I'm thinking of the old Aquaman cartoon for the 1960s where he could create balls of water in his hand while in the sea, and throw it. That cartoon series was the only time he had that power. It would be a very low level power to start but you can raise it later with XP.

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So just do a bit more tweaking and you are ready to go.



andyman wrote:Thank you for the feedback. I made a bunch of changes. Here is the latest for your review.

The Fin (Ensign Dan Noble)
Hero
Seeking Justice
Hero Points: 516 (509 Spent)

DEX 7 (42 HP)
STR 8 (48 HP)
BODY 8/8 (48 HP)
INT 6 (35 HP)
WILL 6 (30 HP)
MIND 4/4 (12 HP)
INFL 5 (21 HP)
AURA 6 (30 HP)
SPIRIT 6/6 (30 HP)
Initiative 22

Powers:
Swimming 6 (12 HP)
Ultra Vision 7 (18 HP)
Water Freedom 7 (24 HP)

Skills:
Martial Artist 4 (46 HP)
Military Science 6* (33 HP)
Vehicles (Water) 7 (14 HP)
Weaponry (Firearms/Melee) 4 (12 HP)

Advantages:
Connections: U.S. Navy (Low) (10 HP)
Neptunia (Low) (10 HP)
Lighting Reflexes (20 HP)

Drawbacks:
Secret Identity (10 HP)
Gradual Power Loss (Strength) to 3 if not immersed in water after one hour. (6 HP)

Equipment:
.44 Magnum Revolver
[Body: 4, EV: 5, Range: 5, Ammo: 6, R#: 3, Cost: 11]
Cutlass
[Body: 6, EV: 4, Cost: 18]

Height: 6’ 1”
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 22
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Wealth: 4 (6 HP)
Group: GI JOE
Base:
Occupation: Navy Officer (O-1 Ensign)
Marital Status: Single
Relatives: The Fin (Peter Noble) father, Nia Noble mother, U-Man maternal grandfather, Lady Lotus maternal grandmother
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Post  andyman Wed Dec 07 2022, 04:41

David - It looks like you were reviewing an old stat block. The Magnum is not on my latest post. I sent the following. Please review this version.

Thank you both for the feedback. Here is my latest update.

The Fin (Ensign Dan Noble)
Hero
Seeking Justice
Hero Points: 6 (450 + 50 Background + 16 Drawbacks - 510 Spent)

DEX 8 (56 HP) [14 HP Free]
STR 8 (48 HP) [12 HP Free]
BODY 8/8 (48 HP) [12 HP Free]
INT 5 (21 HP) [7 HP Free]
WILL 5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
MIND 5/5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
INFL 5 (21 HP) [7 HP Free]
AURA 5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
SPIRIT 5/5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
Initiative 22

Powers:
Swimming 8* (15 HP)
Ultra Vision 5 (15 HP)
Water Freedom 8* (15 HP)

Skills:
Martial Artist 8* (75 HP)
Military Science 5* (19 HP) [19 HP Free]
Vehicles (Water) 8* (15 HP)
Weaponry 2 (0 HP) [11 HP Free]

Advantages:
Connections: U.S. Navy (Low) (10 HP)
Neptunia (Low) (10 HP)
Lighting Reflexes (20 HP)

Drawbacks:
Secret Identity (10 HP)
Gradual Power Loss (Strength) to 3 if not immersed in water after one hour. (6 HP)

Equipment:
Cutlass
[Body: 10, EV: 6, Cost: 44]

Height: 6’ 1”
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 27
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Wealth: 4 (6 HP)
Group: GI JOE
Base:
Occupation: Navy Officer (O-1 Ensign)
Marital Status: Single
Relatives: The Fin (Peter Noble) father, Nia Noble mother, U-Man maternal grandfather, Lady Lotus maternal grandmother
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Post  DavidMcMahon Wed Dec 07 2022, 09:47

Sorry, my bad.

Since your rank is Ensign, that's one background point. You also spent one on the subskill Vehicles/Water. I don't see where you spent your third background point in a subskill. Unless I just missed it, you need to spend that on a subskill. I would suggest Medicine/First Aid. And you need a 4 in Wealth.

So do those two things and the Fin is ready.

andyman wrote:David - It looks like you were reviewing an old stat block. The Magnum is not on my latest post. I sent the following. Please review this version.

Thank you both for the feedback. Here is my latest update.

The Fin (Ensign Dan Noble)
Hero
Seeking Justice
Hero Points: 6 (450 + 50 Background + 16 Drawbacks - 510 Spent)

DEX 8 (56 HP) [14 HP Free]
STR 8 (48 HP) [12 HP Free]
BODY 8/8 (48 HP) [12 HP Free]
INT 5 (21 HP) [7 HP Free]
WILL 5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
MIND 5/5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
INFL 5 (21 HP) [7 HP Free]
AURA 5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
SPIRIT 5/5 (18 HP) [6 HP Free]
Initiative 22

Powers:
Swimming 8* (15 HP)
Ultra Vision 5 (15 HP)
Water Freedom 8* (15 HP)

Skills:
Martial Artist 8* (75 HP)
Military Science 5* (19 HP) [19 HP Free]
Vehicles (Water) 8* (15 HP)
Weaponry 2 (0 HP) [11 HP Free]

Advantages:
Connections: U.S. Navy (Low) (10 HP)
Neptunia (Low) (10 HP)
Lighting Reflexes (20 HP)

Drawbacks:
Secret Identity (10 HP)
Gradual Power Loss (Strength) to 3 if not immersed in water after one hour. (6 HP)

Equipment:
Cutlass
[Body: 10, EV: 6, Cost: 44]

Height: 6’ 1”
Weight: 190 lbs
Age: 27
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Wealth: 4 (6 HP)
Group: GI JOE
Base:
Occupation: Navy Officer (O-1 Ensign)
Marital Status: Single
Relatives: The Fin (Peter Noble) father, Nia Noble mother, U-Man maternal grandfather, Lady Lotus maternal grandmother
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Post  andyman Mon Dec 12 2022, 00:03

Wealth is listed between Hair Color and Group. It is already a 4.

I can do Medicine/First Aid. Maybe Dan worked as a lifeguard. I'd love to go undercover with Baywatch.
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Post  DavidMcMahon Mon Dec 12 2022, 00:40

Every recruit, regardless of service, is taught first aid during boot camp. It's why I suggested it.

andyman wrote:Wealth is listed between Hair Color and Group. It is already a 4.

I can do Medicine/First Aid. Maybe Dan worked as a lifeguard. I'd love to go undercover with Baywatch.
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Post  andyman Sat Dec 17 2022, 17:10

DavidMcMahon wrote:Every recruit, regardless of service, is taught first aid during boot camp.  It's why I suggested it.

andyman wrote:Wealth is listed between Hair Color and Group. It is already a 4.

I can do Medicine/First Aid. Maybe Dan worked as a lifeguard. I'd love to go undercover with Baywatch.
I updated the first post on top to include Medicine (First Aid) 1 for free. Is that correct?
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Post  DavidMcMahon Sun Dec 18 2022, 01:24

Yep. Now check out In Character Gaming Posts where I've started Issue 1's adventure. Very Happy
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